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Florida Election Results: How concerned should we be?
By funmaxus | January 30, 2008
According to Florida voter registration and turnout: 3,849,892 votes were cast.
Adding the Democratic and Republican votes cast we have 3,453,073 votes, a difference of 396,819 votes.
Removing: Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange Counties from the total vote we have 3,146,257 votes cast. A difference of 703,635 votes cast.
Please review each of the following “official” State of Florida websites.
Florida voter registration and turnout: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/enight.asp
Republican turnout: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/enight.asp
Democratic Turnout: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/enight.asp
Note: that the results are “Unofficial Election Night Returns (may not include absentee or provisional ballots)”
Note that the Florida Voter Registration and Turnout shows Broward, Madison and Monroe counties had zero voters appear in the election. However the Republican and Democratic turnout does show voters.
Orange County on both the Democratic and Republican totals is zero, but the election night returns shows that 209,524 votes were cast out of 508,185 registered voters. We just don’t know who voted for the individual candidates.
I then created a spreadsheet. See attached.
Not one county in the entire state shows a matching total. Using the below math:
(Democratic Voter Turnout + Republican Voter Turnout) – Florida Voter Registration Turnout, yields the following numbers:
According to Florida voter registration and turnout: 3,849,892 votes were cast.
Adding the Democratic and Republican votes cast we have 3,453,073 votes, a difference of 396,819 votes.
Removing: Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange Counties from the total vote we have 3,146,257 votes cast. A difference of 703,635 votes cast.
A sample of the worst offenders: Miami-Dade: 66,655, Palm Beach: 49,058, Pinellas: 39,223, Hillsborough: 29,745 Collier: 23,846, Lee: 23,504 Brevard: 19,757 Sarasota: 18,895, Duval: 18,486 Volusia: 17,088 Pasco: 16,417 Seminole: 13,592
Question: Why is there a difference in the vote? Did people show up to vote, and their vote didn’t count according to the “official” state of Florida website results or did they decide not to vote for a candidate at all? Could someone answer this mystery?
| County | Turnout | Democratic + Republican Turnout | Difference | Democratic + Republican TurnoutLess: Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange | Difference |
Topics: vote fraud |
27 Responses to “Florida Election Results: How concerned should we be?”
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January 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Let’s get on that. Outrageous
January 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
There were some stories of people that were not a D or an R and they could not vote. Also, some of the voting sites had the voter info wrong too. Other that that we can chalk it up to the FRAUD voting machines.
Let’s check into this interesting “tid bit”. Has anyone contacted blackboxvoting.org? Bev Harris.
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January 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Funny how there are computers that can simulate a nuclear explosion, yet these machines can’t count votes properly. A lot of people think that the machines are vulnerable through hacking the memory cards. These machines are programmed to skew the vote, making almost impossible to trace
January 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I’ve just sent an e-mail to black box voting with my attached spreadsheet using the numbers found from Florida’s own website.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
wow great catch!!! that is very disturbing!! We should send this to every network we can.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
It’s unreal. The website just got updated. The state is now showing numbers for Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange Counties.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Mike Huckabee’s number’s changed from 13.3% to 13.5% John McCain’s number changed from 36.2% to 36.0%. Hillary Clinton changed from 49.7% to 49.8%. John Edwards was changed from 14.6% to 14.4%. Barack Obama was changed from 32.7% to 32.9%.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
[...] funmaxus wrote an interesting post today on Florida Election Results: How concerned should we be?Here’s a quick excerptAccording to Florida voter registration and turnout: 3849892 votes were cast. Adding the Democratic and Republican votes cast we have 3453073 votes, a difference of 396819 votes. Removing: Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange Counties … [...]
January 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
You should probably email bev harris at blackboxvoting.org about this.
January 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Total number of votes counted changed from 3,849,892 to 4,239,350. Palm Beach has increased from 49,058 to 51,681. The disparity between the actual votes counted and the counts cast from the Democratic and Republican totals continues… The total difference is now 580,548.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
[...] funmaxus wrote an interesting post today on Florida Election Results: How concerned should we be?Here’s a quick excerptAccording to Florida voter registration and turnout: 3849892 votes were cast. Adding the Democratic and Republican votes cast we have 3453073 votes, a difference of 396819 votes. Removing: Broward, Madison, Monroe and Orange Counties … [...]
January 30th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
They could have been WRITE IN CANDIDATES of an UNKNOWN PARTY AFFILIATION
January 30th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Or…they could have been votes for RON PAUL that just weren’t counted…
That’s way too many votes to just “go astray”.
January 30th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
the worst part about this is that there is no way to tell how the votes were skewed if at all, due to the votes being cast on an electronic voting machine, this is really disgusting. Even if there is a data entry error from some college student or something like that. You would think that the numbers would be checked 3-4 times just to ensure the correct numbers were being reported considering the travesty that took place in 2000.
This is utterly disgusting. I do realize that there were some problems with the machines yet this is just disgusting!!
January 31st, 2008 at 2:35 am
# Savage206 Says:
“”wow great catch!!! that is very disturbing!! We should send this to every network we can.”
Yes because they will be so interested and determined to report it of course.
LOL
January 31st, 2008 at 2:36 am
America land of the feeble and home of the knave.
and
Australia is of course the lackey country.
January 31st, 2008 at 3:28 am
it is only really vote fraud if it affects one candidate or one group of voters over another, otherwise it is just incompetence.
January 31st, 2008 at 10:58 am
Why do you think you are using electronic voting machines in the first place? PLEASE! This is a complete joke. Democracy, what democracy? Absolutely ridiculous. Electronic voting machines are used for one reason and one reason only - to cheat.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:47 am
I have often cast a ballot with no vote. I do that when I don’t like any of the candidates. I just want the government to know that I do vote, but not for the lesser of two evils.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I agree with number 18 (truth)
“Why do you think you are using electronic voting machines in the first place? PLEASE! This is a complete joke. Democracy, what democracy? Absolutely ridiculous. Electronic voting machines are used for one reason and one reason only - to cheat.”
There is no limit to their treasonous activities, deceptions,and lies.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
The Bilderbergers are good at this. They continue to shape and form exactly what Rockefeller instructs them to.
Until we American citizens abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS (International Racketeering Scum), all this don’t mean shit! The voting, the primaries, the debates, the MSM and Newspapers shunning Ron Paul, it’s all just to keep us entertained and watching something other than our own money.
Until we control our own monetary system, nothing else matters.
The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Free people cannot control their own destiny unless they control their own currency. The Federal Reserve must be abolished.
Nothing else means anything, they are the cause and abolishing them is the cure for prosperity in the USA, anything short is a continuing down fall of what we once cared about and loved.
Ron Paul has a huge elephant to face, but let’s keep telling everyone we speak with and educate them. Keep in mind that we Ron Paul supporters would be far more helpful if we take part in town meetings, start up meetings, neighbor hood events handing out literature for his campaign. The internet is only one place, lets expand this knowledge and expose the truth about the Federal Reserve (International Private Bankers) and why we let them control our destiny. Fix the money problem and everything else goes away.
January 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Hand count the votes, videotape the count, put it online.
Until then, the numbers don’t mean much.
January 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
You cannot hand count votes cast and recorded on computers without any paper ballot (as done in Florida, even though they’ve decided these machines are not credible and they are still using them for this election cycle).
February 1st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
After some additional research, I’ve concluded that a rational explanation can be atributed to Florida’s Closed Primary election rules. I’ve read the arguments for Open and Closed primaries and respect both positions, however I believe that a person is a citizen, and has legally complied with their duties, should be allowed to vote. The following is from the State of Florida regarding the Closed primary.
http://election.dos.state.fl.u.....l#3votereg
Party Affiliation
Since Florida is a closed primary state, only voters who are registered members of the two major political parties (Republicans and Democrats) may vote for their respective party’s candidates in a primary election. Registered minor political party voters and voters without party affiliation are not eligible to vote for major party candidates in a primary election. However, a constitutional amendment adopted in 1998 states that IF all candidates for an office have the same party affiliation and the winner will have no opposition in the general election, all qualified voters, regardless of party affiliation, may vote in the primary election for that office. (See art. VI, s.5 of the Florida Constitution). Party changes must be made by the end of the 29th day before the Primary Election.
Florida Just Can’t Get an Election Right http://news.aol.com/political-.....ion-right/ ” In Florida, only those who declare a party are allowed to cast a vote in that party’s presidential primary. Nirenberg said he tried to explain to the poll worker that he should not vote on a party ballot because of his “no party affiliation” status. Nirenberg said a second poll worker was called over who agreed that independents should not use party ballots, but said they had received instructions to the contrary. “He said, ‘Ya know, that is kind of funny, but it was what we were told.’ … I was shocked when they told me that.” Nirenberg said he went ahead and voted for John McCain.”
XIV Amendment: http://www.law.cornell.edu/con.....ntxiv.html
XV Amendment: http://www.law.cornell.edu/con.....entxv.html
TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE CHAPTER 20 - ELECTIVE FRANCHISE http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/votin.....r_1973gg-3
ABOUT THE NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION ACT http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/votin.....a.htm#prov
ABOUT THE NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION ACT http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/votin.....v_nvra.htm
Commentary on the XV amendment: http://www.answers.com/topic/a.....at=biz-fin
Commentary on the Voting Rights Act of 1965: http://www.answers.com/topic/v.....at=biz-fin
Yet in Bush v. Gore (2000), the Supreme Court stated that there was no constitutional right to vote in presidential elections because the Constitution, in creating the Electoral College, left it up to the states regarding how electors would be chosen. What all these decisions suggest then is that the constitutional right to vote is highly qualified, resting more in what states cannot do regarding discrimination against specific individuals than in affirmatively granting a right to vote. http://www.answers.com/topic/right-to-vote-1
Help America Vote Act http://www.answers.com/topic/help-america-vote-act
Right To Vote http://www.answers.com/topic/right-to-vote-1
Voting Rights Act of 1965 http://www.answers.com/topic/v.....at=biz-fin
Election Reform: An Analysis of Proposals and the Commission’s Recommendations for Improving America’s Election System http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/elecref/ch1.htm
Independent Voters http://www.wmbb.com/gulfcoastw.....-0017.html “When Floridians head to the polls on Tuesday to cast their ballot, 22% of voters won’t be voting in the presidential primary, only on the property tax amendment.
Florida has about 10.1 million registered voters in the state. 2.2 million are unaffiliated or minor-party voters. That number’s up from 16% in 2000. Florida joins 26 other states using a closed primary system, 19 states including our neighbors to the north, Alabama and Georgia, allow independents to vote in their primaries. The state has 4.1 million registered Democrats and 3.8 million registered Republicans. ”
South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com Long lines, high turnout, few glitches as polls close http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sf.....rint.story
Florida voters show growing independent streak http://www.orlandosentinel.com.....3617.story
” Of about 10.1 million registered voters in Florida, 22 percent have no party affiliation or are members of a minor party. That’s up from 16 percent eight years ago. Democrats and Republicans still outnumber independent voters. Florida leans Democratic statewide, with 4.1 million Democrats and 3.8 million Republicans. By comparison, there are 2.2 million unaffiliated or minor-party voters. “
February 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
The State of Florida only released information regarding the Democratic and Republican voters. Did not see information regarding the Independent voters.
February 2nd, 2008 at 6:47 am
Possibly, I’m not understanding your data correctly, but let me explain how Floriduh voted this primary. Voters were given one of three ballots. Registered Dems were given a ballot with a list of Dem candidates and a Amendment 1 vote, yes or no. Republicans were given a ballot with the Repubs’ candidates and the Amendment 1 selection. Independents, including other party registrations, were given a ballot with only the Amendment 1 selection. Maybe this explains the discrepancy of total voters and Dem-Rep voters. Again, maybe I’m not understanding your argument. Either way it doesn’t assure me that the final tabulation accurately refects voter intent. One has to wonder how many votes these machines skimmed off Ron Paul’s bin (and others’) and given to the warmonger McManchurian Man.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
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