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Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H.
By admin | January 8, 2008
Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 8, 2008
According to a post this evening on the Ron Paul Forums, vote fraud occurred in Sutton, New Hampshire:
Sutton with 100% reporting reported 0 votes for paul but poster in Sutton posted:
My mom, aunt, and dad all voted for RP today in my hometown, My mom and aunt both work passing out ballots, and checking them off. I just looked at the politico map and it says their town has ZERO votes for Ron. Now i know that there isn’t corruption on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know???
Originally Posted by sstjean View Post
This was posted to ronpaul-801 tonight: “This town numbers are wrong wrong wrong on this map. I am from Sutton originally and my parents and one aunt all voted for Ron Paul today and Sutton says 0. So this is wrong. This is a town that had 20 people counting the ballots and I have no reason to believe that they cheated. Small town and I was born and raised there. The real numbers will come in by morning. The electronic machines in the big towns are the ones we have to worry about.”
Earlier in the day, Brad Blog reported other suspicious behavior:
Our Spidey-sense started tingling before going to bed last night and hearing reports, on MSNBC, that there were 17 paper ballots cast in Dixville Notch, NH’s midnight, first-in-the-country voting. The report said that there were only 16 registered voters in the tiny voting precinct, yet 17 votes had been cast — suggesting that somehow, paper ballot “voter fraud” skullduggery was afoot.
Brad, however, believes the story is easily debunked:
Given that one of those reports seems to have begun on The DRUDGE REPORT earlier today, we’re not particularly surprised that the MSM kept repeating the easily-debunked stories running all day.
That, even while there are reasons to be concerned about how the paper ballots used in the New Hampshire Primary will actually be counted by the hackable Diebold optical-scan systems used in the state, as controlled and programmed by an outrageously bad private contractor there.
Of course, there is plenty of room for hank-panky, as Michael Collins notes:
81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as “Premier”). The elections run on these machines are programmed by one company, LHS Associates, based in Methuen, MA. We know nothing about the people programming these machines, and we know even less about LHS Associates. We know even less about the secret vote counting software used to tabulate 81% of our ballots. People like to say “but we use paper ballots! They can always be counted by hand!”
But they’re not. They’re counted by Diebold. Only a candidate can request a hand recount, and most never do so. And a rigged election can easily become a rigged recount, as we learned in Ohio 2004, where two election officials were convicted of rigging their recount….
In short, the stage was set by Diebold and Republican operatives to rig yet another election, as the above first-hand account seems to indicate.
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142 Responses to “Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H.”
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January 8th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Good Job Kurt, You rock as Always! we need to get this out by tomorrow! in the MSM. I’d like to say I am Surprised but I’m not, this makes me F’n sick!
January 8th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
This is indeed a smoking gun for voting fraud and should be dealt with swiftly. Spread the word fight the machine.
January 8th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Either there is vote fraud or the Live free and Die state has chosen death. I hope the Ron Paul demands a re-count.
Ed Brotherton
January 8th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
i need my meds
January 8th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
CHECK THE RECORDS AT YOUR COUNTY ELECTION COMMISSION IMMEDIATELY, TO CONFIRM THAT YOUR VOTE WAS COUNTED. OUR KNOX COUNTY TN ELECTION COMMISSION “LOSES” 20,000 REGISTERED VOTES EVERY ELECTION.
FILL OUT THE AFFIDAVIT FROM HERE AND GET IT NOTARIZED FOR EACH PERSON:
http://ronpaulvotecount.com
I WOULD ADD THAT YOU CAN FILE STATE AND/OR FEDERAL FELONY CHARGES AGAINST YOUR ELECTION COMMISSIONERS IF YOUR VOTE WAS NOT COUNTED.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Will Ron Paul call for a recount? He must!
January 8th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
We all knew, based on what happenned in Iowa, that the likelyhood of fraud in this election was very high, and again, Dr. Paul winds up toward the end of the pack. Dr. Paul should use some of that $20,000,000 to call for recounts in both New Hampshire and Iowa — to whatever extent he can — to highlight any and all fraud going on.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Look at Haverhill and Barnstead Counties. Too many damn round numbers!!!!
January 8th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
just like trevor lyman and a small group of people made the blimp happen and the first of many money bombs….. WE need to come together collectively. we need a central portal to collect all the evidence of fraud in N.H. if ther are ONLY 17,000 people in the whole state of N.H. that voted for ron paul, then we are in trouble, however, i do not believe that.
ps. *sarcastically* maybe ron needs to get on tv and cry and he’ll get a bump.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
This makes me crazy! How can we determine the true winner when votes are not being counted. Why even have an election when the results are skewed? But we can’t back down. Yes, Ron Paul should demand a recount so we can expose the fraud that’s going on!
January 8th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I am LIVID.. I was emailing my meetup group earlier and told them I suspected the NH election was rigged, and they told me to calm down, people just dont know ron paul yet, and then I found this post!! I
January 8th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
[...] Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H. [...]
January 8th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
THE ELECTIONS ARE RIGGED! THAT IS A FACT! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. IT IS SO OBVIOUS. THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING. WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY, BUT DEMONARCY. THE FIX HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I want a recount
i want the guilty parties found out
i want them tried for treason
i want them hung on the white house lawn on national t.v.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Can any? one belive that result????
A totally insult to peoples common sense.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I feel sick to my stomach… Will the millions of people who cry fraud over next few months be enough to bring this voting system down? ARE WE GOING TO BE SUBJECTED TO 4 MORE YEARS (and years beyond apparently) OF ESTABLISHMENT CLONES?!
January 8th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
A total insult. The resuts are so far from the reality of the people’s actual sentiments. Maybe this will be the straw to break the back…
January 8th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
If you have evidence of fraud call the FBI.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I wanted to be sure this wasn’t a hoax, so I sought the actual results. I’ll not re-list them here, but Sutton really does list Paul at zero. This really is terrible. If the link doesn’t work, go to NPR.org and look for the official results, you can then see selections by county.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/f.....N=POLITICS
January 8th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I tell you we as a people will not survive 4 more years of the same. Can you say Amer-iraq?
January 8th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
check this a.s.a.p. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs
also: http://www.bbvdocs.org/NH/stat.....ems-NH.TxT
January 8th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
My take on it,
I don’t think Bush/Clinton’s want to “share” the “control” of USA with others, so therefore must the general feeling on what the support is and for who quickly be rectified, because the “wining/selected” Democrat is “destined” to be Hillary, the Obama trend have quickly to be halted.
So that’s why Hillary “surprisingly” did win for the democrats.
On the republican side they had to put Dr. Ron Paul into single digit which is very good as a talking point, and there where no way that they “let” him get 10% or more which would really accelerate the grassroots movement.
Also there where a strong need to quickly “rehabilitate” Giuliani, so the they as fast as possible can “count out” Dr. Ron Paul.
Putting “100 years of Iraq war McCain” on first place have a two way purpose IMO,
One is to shuffle over independents to the democrats for the next one, but also “kick sand in your face” to the movement showing we do as we want, simply to demoralize.
Well no one should be demoralized, because this was so obvious that no one can belive it that have some insight.
That is the bad part, but there is also a gigantic opportunity in all of this.
With those numbers, and I would presume really outraged intelligent people of New Hampshire (no way that they would have voted McCain in on first place) there have not been a little tampering been going on, but quite a lot in fact, which of course looking for it will be so much easier to find and prove, especially with a lot of highly motivated intelligent angry people.
Also as someone wrote earlier somewhere,
How big is the total numbers for the meetup groups in New Hampshire, that would be a very interesting figure for a starter.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
TT
thanks, very intelligent what you are saying.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
So Paul gets 208 votes in the Strafford county straw poll:
http://www.straffordcountyrepu.....l-results/
But only 96 votes in Strafford county during the NH primaries?
http://www.politico.com/ (Click on the detailed map, then mouse over strafford county)
Whats going on? Would people show up to vote for Paul in a less meaningful straw poll then not vote in the primaries? Did these voters change their minds, are Paul supporters really that fickle? Doesn’t seem to make sense.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I want to first start off by talking about Ron Paul and the New Hampshire election. Right now 90% of the precincts have reported and Ron Paul has 16,400 votes. With 10% at that rate, let’s put him at 18,000 votes for the grand total. Are you still with me here?
Let me use a common sense argument, tell you what I think ‘they’ are doing and tell you what you will probably find out tomorrow:
Common Sense Argument
With over 500,000 voters do you really think that Ron Paul only had 18,000 supporters in the state? I heard reports yesterday of hundreds of Ron Paul supports in all of the cities across the state. You can probably easily add up 10,000 Ron Paul supporters from the meetup.com Ron Paul groups in New Hampshire alone. There are a reasonable amount of people who should vote for Ron Paul in my area and we only have a group of 45 supporters. I think it is clear that there is some voting fraud, probably substantial.
My Take
If Hillary Clinton did not win New Hampshire it would be quite possible that Obama would receive the Democrat nomination. If the reports are true that she was picked by the Bilderberg group to be the president then she would most likely had to win New Hampshire. Perhaps Obama will be here vice president? Now onto the Republican side:
Huckabee had a major win in Iowa, McCain took the gold medal in New Hampshire, now what? I think Romney will take Michigan and perhaps Thompson will take Florida. What you will have is no clear defined leader, which means no strong opponent to the Democratic candidate. This is a trick being done by design. Onto Ron Paul:
I do not believe that Ron Paul could only get 8% of the vote in NH. Even Ron Paul expected to do much better in NH then he did in Iowa. Ron Paul was in third, early in the race with a close second. Guiliani was sitting in his sixth place and McCain had obviously been given early morning publicity and was the media’s (elite too?) pick of the day.
One thing I personally saw was Ron Paul’s votes go from 1812 to 1729, this is on the Yahoo! Political Dashboard. I did not see any other candidate go down when this happened. So if the removed a precinct then I would assume all of them (Republican runners) would have dropped. So what gives? I’ll tell you what gives Ron Paul was cheated, and so where you patriotic American.
What You Will Find Out Tomorrow
If you listen to Alex Jones I believe you will hear an extremely enraged man. The obvious voting fraud will be on the table tomorrow and there will quite honestly probably be little recourse to it. You will see a split Ron Paul camp, those who believe Ron Paul was cheated and will continue with the Ron Paul torch of freedom and those who will be ready to throw in the towel as they see no chance of their founding father material candidate winning.
Why This Is So Important
Face it, Hillary Clinton’s Universal Health Care program is not only unconstitutional but in itself is a reason to not vote for her. However with the win in New Hampshire, another major win in Michigan, South Carolina or Florida and winning on Super Tuesday she will be well on her way for getting the Democratic nomination. Who can defeat her on the Republican side? Only Ron Paul. If Dr. Paul does not get the nomination then what? Yes he could run as an independent but…?
What’s At Stake
Well if you have been doing your homework the last couple of years you should have at least come to two conclusions. The first is that the economy is in serious danger and it is likely that it will crash within this year or next. The second conclusion should be that a virtual police state has formed around us and our Constitutional rights are hanging by a thread. One more terrorist attack, the economy collapsing, the Avian flu, etc. and our rights and freedoms are gone. If you have watched Alex Jone’s End Game then you know we are in very serious trouble.
The truth is I don’t believe Hillary Clinton or Ron Paul could stop this from happening, in fact no one probably could except for God Almighty Himself. The question you got to ask yourself is who do you want to be your leader when America falls? Do you want Ron Paul who will help this country to rebuild itself as quickly as possible? Or someone else who will activate the police state system, open up the concentration camps and go to town while you have basically no rights? Do you want a leader who is honest, respectful and a Constitutionalist or someone who looks like they could wear a military outfit for their daily dress?
It basically boils down to this, if the economy turns into a super depression would you rather be with your family, camping out with barely any food or ???
We must be responsible citizens and hold the elections up to our standards. Not only must we increase our efforts (we still have Super Tuesday) but we must ensure that these efforts are not in vain. We must be certain that when we vote it counts and we make sure of it. Watch your electoral committees and make sure there is no voting fraud. Check, double check and check once more to make sure everyone gets their vote and it counts.
Vote Ron Paul 2008
January 8th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
The message of Freedom: Ron Paul’s 20 year Congressional Voting Record will not go down without a fight. Contest the election fraud.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
We need an on-line affidavit of votes. Every single person who votes for Ron Paul must make a sworn statement that they actually voted. A sworn statement on-line. That way we can compare real vote results to the suspect vote results. Then the American people will know for sure, and be outraged, I suspect. We’ll get this thing fixed in no time flat! It’s the answer!
January 8th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
you know.. I dont see anything short of 10000 Ron paul supporters marching on the capitol in Washington changing anything now.. you know, he does have $20000 on hand tho
lol
January 8th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Why is it that the distribution of votes, from 20% reported in precincts to 100% is almost exactly the same. Ron Paul had 8%, Giuliani 9%, that spread on distribution was exactly the same from 20% reported to 100% reported. So all over New Hampshire no matter what the area or neighborhood the distribution of votes is exactly the same?
January 8th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
000 sry
January 8th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Man why am I not surprised. I thought RP’s numbers were low for NH. I have long said the government is corrupt and evil so this is something that should have been expected. They really don’t want RP to have a shot. Better to set up a contest between tweedle dee and tweedle dum and then tell the public to choose which neoconsocialist they want to choose from.
Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
January 8th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Can some one explain to me why this website and their count shows Dr. Paul as the winner of the NH caucus?
http://www.boston.com/news/pol.....s_by_town/
January 8th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Something to Sink our Teeth Into
ABC “New Hampshire’s Polling Fiasco” ->needs RP comments
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenu.....l#comments
January 8th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
People, people, people, remain vigilant. We can win this. You are just and in the right, and God is with you.
Let us get EVERY Ron Paul supporter in this country together and visit every person in New Hampshire. Let us get the vote count. Someone can make a website for NH and Iowa; there was fraud in the latter as well. Let every Ron Paul voter give us their vote and location. Then, confirm it with a call back. Let us work on this together. This is racketeering (RICO), an extreme criminal act.
The owner of FOX News gave financial support to three candidates: Giuliani, McCain, and especially Clinton. Then he uses his government issued license to preferentially promote them? You must get a count. It must be confirmable. Then, you will have the proof. Dr. Paul had more votes than anyone. He won: there is no doubt about it. He had 35% of the vote, minimum. Whole families went out to vote for him. People love him. Who else would they vote for?
The people have been defrauded. But this time they know it. Listen to RBN on Wednesday. I will bring it up then (I believe the show is on the net).
January 8th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
A typical Ron Paul supporter’s whole ideology is truth and integrity, so I have a hard time doubting the claims about this discrepancy. It is possible it is a counting error that will be rectified, but then again with the overall media blackout of Ron over the past year, who knows what certain interests are capable of. Definitely worth investigation! Thanks for the info. If something is afoot, for or against ANY candidate (not just my favorite), it is up to us to raise a stink.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Alrighty, since I posted that link for vote returns, they have swapped the numbers for Dr. Paul and McCain. They now say McCain has over 86,000 votes.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
HOLY SHIT hogwild, thats amazing!!!!!! everyone should look at that page soon, I dont think itll be there long!!
January 8th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
HogWild
WTF? I am going to copy that page. What is going on? The totals at the bottom are wrong and the votes show something totally different. THIS IS SERIOUS. SEE HOGWILD’S POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
yes the totals changed, but look at the votes
January 8th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
@Leroy Transfield
> Why is it that the distribution of votes [...] is almost exactly the same.
> Ron Paul had 8%, Giuliani 9%,
> So all over New Hampshire no matter what the area or neighborhood
> the distribution of votes is exactly the same?
No not at all, NH varies more over 5 miles than New Mexico does in 100. It’s the *official* distribution of votes that is exactly the same. This is a message for those with eyes to see: that the count is being managed, and that Rudy gets to save some *official* face for awhile in the national media.
Similarly, Sputnik was officially about achievement, but to America’s leadership it meant “we can drop a nuke on you now.”
January 8th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
call the FBI? what are they going to do spend more of my $$ telling me red is actually blue after the field ops rpt was sent upstairs and it comes back from hq - please, yes the first grunt or two may actually try to do something and even or most likely the next couple of tiers upwardly but after that its like a frik’n black hole. it sucks all real information into itself and almost nothing ever comes out of it with a degree of truth
all if not most of their entire agency would tell you that if they could (99.37% are good american people)
at the end of the day what was sent up may not always come back down to the same field agent(s) = get it = compartmentizilation = thats how the puppet masters work = it only takes a hand full in very critical positions
didn’t you watch X-Files?
no, the FBI most likely can not help US but it sure would be nice if they did!
god bless the greater republic (federal) and all republics (states) with in our great union of soverign states of which We the People call home
January 8th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
As a UK citizen I’m sorry to hear that Ron Paul didn’t do better, their are many UK citizens that without a doubt believe Ron Paul is the right person to become president of the US.
Here in the UK, we can see that the Neo-Cons are rigging the polls as they can’t have their ‘new world order’ stopped. It’s time for the people of the US to rise up and stop these Neo-Cons from completing their goal for world domination.
Come on America, fight for freedom, fight to stop the new world order.
We the people in the UK are behind you, even if our goverment isn’t.
PEACE AND FREEDOM FOR ALL.
Paul Barnes
January 8th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
NOT ONLY THAT! Tancredo received many votes and he dropped, didn’t he? 1000’s for him yet his total say 66? Did the ballots still have Tancredo on it,?
January 8th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
[...] And Kurt Nimmo notes: [...]
January 8th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I copied that page into a text document already, I GUARANTEE u it will be gone or modified VERY soon!!
January 8th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
The data on boston.com is messed up. The amounts are in the wrong columns. It’s a bad print, not falsified numbers.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
[...] From the Ron Paul War Room: [...]
January 8th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
ref comment 41
god bless the greater republic (federal) = incorrect
god bless the national republic (federal) = correct [this is what i meant to say] = big difference as in this is exactly what our founders argued about and in fact still are
January 8th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Thinking about it when I read HogWild, and working a bit with software.
A very simple way to get everything to “add up” in the end, but are a bit far fetched but i “throw” the idea out there any way.
It would be a extremely minor “change” to route Ron Paul votes to McCain and McCain to Ron Paul, that would “add up” directly in the end and no hassle to count.
If the difference between the two is expected to be sufficient and believable reversed it would be a “easy fix”.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I live in Canada and I am outraged. The outcome isn’t logical. Iam very interested to see how this will unfold. As a Canadian citizen, what can I do to help?
January 8th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
COMPARE CONTRAST
http://www.politico.com/nhprim.....popup.html
http://www.boston.com/news/pol.....s_by_town/
January 8th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
cnn didn’t5 even count the polls in 12 county’s!
A bunch didn’t even have 10 people voting in them????
January 8th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
My Wife and I don’t understand this it dont pass the smell test 8% blah hell they stole them before I guess I am not so surprised after all (first clue Bush was a turd he ran to the supreme court to bypass Fl states rights )and my dumb ass cheerd him on I was a sheepel sorry but not any more
January 8th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
ok, Hogwild, been going through the #s on that page, false alarm, the columns just got shifted.. sry
January 8th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Yes, seems they did just get shifted, however, always gotta check on these things.
Still I cannot fathom how Ron Paul could have only got 8%, give me a break. I am sure a lot more about voter fraud will come out tomorrow.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
http://www.libertybroadcastnet.....ons_nh.htm
We are preparing in Cali ahead of time. We will learn from Jefferson, IA & Richmond, NH.
RonPaulReveres.com DVD, get people to commit to just 10 minute intro by showing them the menu on a portable DVD player and they will know where to click.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
agreed, seems the NWO really has us all on our toes right now, this really is WAR!
January 8th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I don’t think the columns at boston got mixed up compare the other and write in section to the other section at politico.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
VOTERS HAVE TO DEMAND PAPER BALLOT. ALSO SOME ONE NEEDS INDEPENDENTLY COUNT VOTERS THAT VOTE 4 PAUL.
Sorry for the shout but I had to say it loud!
January 8th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
last post according to my computer was at 11:13. Find THAT hard to believe given the outrage over this voter fraud. What will the spin doctors do? I predict cast any of us with questions regarding the vote count as tin foil hat wearing freaks. My answer; to hell with them. Convince none of your friends in local meetups to feel deflated or consider jumping ship. The fight will go on. I do like the idea of having(or trying to) every N.H. Ron paul voter to verify under oath their vote thereby confirming that they did fix it. I hope the fact it is done on the internet would be legally binding. Contact ted Gunderson, an ex FBI chief who is a Ron paul fan and is already looking into vote fraud. Sorry but I haven’t got his e-mail at hand.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
The New Hampshire Primary and Iowa Caucus were both clearly rigged, and Ron Paul must demand recounts. Jim Condit clearly spells out the problem we’re facing at http://www.votefraud.org Many people have correctly noted that the percentages hardly changed at all as the numbers changed, clearly an indication that the election was managed. If it had been a real election we could have expected some fluctuation, some surging, some falling behind as different precincts votes were added- but that didn’t happen. 81% of the New Hampshire vote was counted using hackable Diebold machines by LHS Associates (A) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs
(B) http://www.bbvforums.org/forum.....1199744175
The We the People Foundation has filed this lawsuit in all 50 states to push for verifiable paper ballots in all elections http://www.wethepeoplefoundati.....-11-06.htm They deserve everyone’s support. We must immediately challenge this rigged Primary and demand a recount. If Ron Paul’s campaign staff doesn’t do it, as far as I’m concerned that would be indicative of plants on the staff.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Odd that the columns are messed up but the totals are right? Though the fact that Tancredo got so many votes is telling in itself.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Although a republican government is slow to move, yet when once in motion, its momentum becomes irresistable.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis C. Gray, 1815
January 8th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
LOL yup, thats true, and I agree with an earlier post, I think we are going to hear Alex Jones BLOW UP tommorow
January 8th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I have screen shots taken periodically thru-out the night and saw that for instance in dover NH with 5/6 stations reporting had a vote total at 4182 then when 6/6 reporting the total went down to 4172. So when the last station reported their votes they lost 10 more votes off of the total votes cast. Also I got some shots of towns 100% recorded then changing an hour later then switching back. I am gonna sort through everything if anyone needs screenshots from certain times or wants to see then let me know.
January 8th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
post those screenshots so people following up to the proper channels have the evidence
January 8th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
It is on great occasions only, and after time has been given for cool and deliberate reflection, that the real voice of the people can be known.
George Washington, letter to Edward Carrington, May 1, 1796
January 8th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
rabach Says in post # 25:
One thing I personally saw was Ron Paul’s votes go from 1812 to 1729, this is on the Yahoo! Political Dashboard. I did not see any other candidate go down when this happened.
I tough I din’t red the results properly before I refreshed the Dashboard Yahoo page !
I now see that I wasn’t alone to notice the backward vote count.
This is a difference of 83 votes, I wonder if this could be linked to Sutton ?
January 8th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
This REALLY saddens me I believed in the system, I’m an election judge and the more I learn the more I lose faith in this highly corrupted system. Its too bad because it doesn’t have to be this way but the NEO-CON’s can’t lose, they will win by any means from stacking the deck, to omissions of facts, figures, and events. It seems like they will even go to such lengths as voter fraud. if they bought this, then I doubt the fed will help as for all we know they might be in on it too. I guess just keep telling people about it, so everyone is on the lookout and scrutinizing every single detail! Don’t let them get away with this crap anymore!
January 8th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Yes for sure the time has come for the Voice of The People To be Heard. The time has come. That is for sure.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:08 am
The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth.
Thomas Pain, Common Sense, 1776
do not give up the fight!
January 9th, 2008 at 12:09 am
how should I post the screen shots it doesn’t let me paste into the comment section?
January 9th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Interesting clearinghouse of Straw Polls from every state and totals. RON PAUL does extremely well everywhere mostly firsts, actually complete opposite of current two primaries. A good barometer…..
http://www.usastrawpolls.com/2008/total-wins.html
January 9th, 2008 at 12:15 am
CNN shows Paul at 0% as well http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....al=NHREP21
I think Boston was the site that switched numbers, not the other way around. I guess we’ll see in the a.m.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:22 am
I’ll say what everyone here is daring to dream. Dr. Paul’s support is enormous, and it has taken the pinnacle of media and vote manipulation efforts to make him seem like any other candidate with a hat in the ring. Each Paul supporter counts as five or ten for another, because ‘Paultards’ (jesus!) are really alive, and you can see it in their eyes, and it frightens hell out of mainstream conformbots.
I grew up in New Hampshire and was indoctrinated with Libertarian ideals at my Federally-mandated school. We had field trips to the State building and Concord and Lexington, MA. All of this is not meaningless. It is a long joke against liberty that we are even considering shutting down as a society. The very ground will rise up in resistance.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:32 am
corvax22 said,
> how should I post the screen shots?
> it doesn’t let me paste into the comment section?
It doesn’t, but you can upload them to an image host - like flickr or imageshack or … - and then post us the link. you will probably have to sign up, thank you in advance for the screenshots.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:34 am
From:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....al=NHREP21
100% reported
McCain
44%
Romney
15%
Paul
14%
Huckabee
12%
Thompson
4%
Giuliani
3%
Hunter
1%
January 9th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Oh crap, nevermind…I stayed up too late and missed that those #s are fr only one district.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:36 am
If anyone is interested, I took a snapshot of the boston.com page displaying the oddly added results : http://www.galphanore.com-a.go.....p_resu.pdf
January 9th, 2008 at 12:42 am
On my side, it shows McCain with over 86k votes, but still shows the very low numbers for each city. Ron Paul’s final tally went down, but with the original “McCain” numbers. That means, it doesn’t automatically add up the numbers like an Excel spreadsheet, and I find that very odd by itself!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 12:44 am
If you saw Aaron Russo’s “America- Freedom to Fascism”, then you saw computer programmer Clinton Eugene Curtis testify about selling a vote rigging program to Jeb Bush buddy Tom Feeney. Also at infowars.com there is a video of a man named Harri Hursti hacking the exact machines used tonite. We had to see this coming.
Right now David Rockerfeller is masturbating,between voter fraud and the military industrial complex media, him and his buddies got what they paid for.
But one thing they can never buy is that which is in our hearts and minds. Don’t let them win. This movement should never stop!!
We will find a way to fight this voter fraud, and if we lose, the battle continues!
January 9th, 2008 at 12:44 am
I dont believe the counting process for a second. Why cant there be transparent vote counting? People should be on the streets screaming fraud and demanding transparent counting.
“Neocons, are trotskyites”
January 9th, 2008 at 12:47 am
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January 9th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I am just wondering when Thompson and Hunter and even Ghouliani will drop out. Look how terrible they are doing compared to what all of those MSM paid for and backed polls were saying.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:15 am
One of the most important Presidential Elections in US history is taking place to determine whether the country continues its imperial warring abroad, and whether domestically we will continue our quick slide away from Constitutional protections over into a more police-state society. The stakes are that high, we the People know it, and so do the War-Pig Neo-Cons of whom are some the biggest financial backers of the Companies Diebold, and ES&S that make these electronic voting machines that have internal modems that are set-up to allow elections to be rigged, we cannot, and should not allow this election fraud to take place. Dr. Ron Paul has to CONTEST this New Hampshire election, we the people demand it!!!!!!!!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 1:26 am
HERE ARE THE LINKS TO SCREEN SHOTS OF VERY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY NOTICE THE TIME MY COMPUTER IN RELATION TO THE VOTE COUNTS. DOVERS TOTAL VOTE COUNT GOES DOWN BY TEN AFTER THE 6TH OF 6 STATION REPORTS IN. ALSO CHECK OUT KEENE AND NASHUA NUMBERS. ALL LINKS ARE LABELED BY CITY I HAVE OTHER SCREEN SHOTS JUST NOT SURE IF THIERS ANYTHING ON THEM I’LL WORK ON GETTING THEM ALL UP SOON.
PLEASE EVERYONE VIEW THIS BULLSHIT
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January 9th, 2008 at 1:31 am
OOPS CLOSED THAT LAST POST BEFORE I WAS FINISHED
IN THE NASHUA POST AT 9:43 RON PAUL VOTES DROP TO 30 FROM 745 ANYHOW JUST LOOK THROUGHT THE SCREEN SHOTS BY CORRELATING THE CITY NAME IN URL THEN TIME STAMPS YOU’LL SEE WHAT I’MA TALKING ABOUT
January 9th, 2008 at 1:31 am
New Hamphire is 40+% independent and 80+% pro-peace. Ron Paul polls very high w/ independents and peace-wishers but gets 8% of the vote. Rigged. Ron Paul WON NH by a huge margin.
There is huge voter fraud in NH through these machines. Stand-up and Face it. Or have to face Mr. McCain or another Clinton every morning.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:34 am
All I can do is sigh… Maybe we really do need to take to the streets. I like the idea of having a site where people can register their vote with a sworn testimony. Make it all legal and we could be onto a great thing. I’d set it up myself but I’m hopeless when it comes to making webpages.. I hope someone runs with it.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:35 am
HOLY CRAP CORVAX22
THANK YOU. thank you.
honestly, the Internet closes its ears when u yell.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:39 am
@CantWait4TheReverend:
> a site where people can register their vote with a sworn testimony.
If I lived in NH, I’d go make a Stand by the county courthouse. Let all people who vited for RP physically show up. Then the vote tally can be trashed in favor of the head count. Let Romney and Obama supporters show up to be counted as well - they were robbed.
January 9th, 2008 at 7:03 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 7:13 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 7:36 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. With 100% of precincts now reporting, the map still says zero votes for Ron Paul as you can see below [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 9:11 am
This might be helpful.
99 Ways to Steal Elections: The Story of John Fund and Ron Paul
http://howtheneoconsstolefreedom.blogspot.com/
January 9th, 2008 at 9:31 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 10:00 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 10:32 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 10:43 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Is your revolution just going to fizzle out?? Everyone in the UK knows about your vote fraud, and you are the ONLY country in the world to use voting machines. Well done” Land of the Free!”
January 9th, 2008 at 11:16 am
So has the Ron Paul campaign been made aware of the Sutton County info… and has there been a response from the campaign?
January 9th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Come on people…we have known for the last 4 years that the Bush election was
rigged. What makes you “think” it will change?
Only YOU can change it, by calling your senators and representatives and getting
back to the paper vote, no matter how long it takes to count votes.
My theory…It seems there is a chip to put into the voting machine to test it and
once it is tested, After about say 25 votes, every other vote goes to the top candidate.
Or, how about the people who actually count the votes putting the wrong name or
exchanging names on the top of the list, giving the ESTABLISHMENT the votes
instead of the REAL candidate. This stands out in my mind.
So, what do we do…demand that the votes be counted in each precinct by
3 or 4 people with a half dozen witnesses on either democrat /republican sides.
Go to http://www.ronpaul2008.com and scroll to the bottom where it says Contact Us
and it goes to another page where you can voice your thoughts. All Ron Paul
supporters need to request a recount…DEMAND a recount before we go to
any other state and now, instead of just voting on the machine, have someone
from the Ron Paul Campaign stand with a box where you can drop your
confirmation vote. At the end of the election, those Ron Paul votes should
match the computers. If they don’t, then before the November 2008 elections
we will have time to ELIMINATE the computer voting process. We MUST do
this in order to PROVE that these elections are purposely rigged to downsize
Ron Paul’s campaign votes.
It’s Ron Paul for President or Bust!!! Voice your opinion by calling the Whitehouse
today. Email Paul’s campaign and do your part by spreading the word to every
Paul supporter to do the same.
WE ARE SICK AND TIRED…WE ARE NOT ON THE OFFENSE ANYMORE…WE
ARE ON THE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMERICAN’S STAND STRONG…WE ARE NOT
GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!
January 9th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. I am not a Ron Paul supporter, but I am up in arms today. What a very sad day. We all have to suspect that things like this happen, yet shrug our shoulders. It is time for us to act. Pass this along to everyone - we will not stand for this and you are going DOWN.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
[...] testified in front of the New Hampshire legislature that the machines were wide open to fraud. According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire , three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Iowa primary proves we need an honest and clear election system (1/4/08)
Over 92% of Iowans are whites. But they choose an African American. Why? That means most Americans hate Iraq war and want their civil liberty back.
Edwards and Hillary, though both are whites and experienced Deomcrats, they behaved more like a Bush’s follower. Both voted for Patriot Act and approved the Iraq war Authorization Bill.
How could we got this result? Because the Iowa Demo primary counts vote on attending people. It makes the election honest and clear and hard to be rigged.
Why Ron Paul only got 10%? (He is the only one in GOP that anti Iraq war and is the only one meets major American’s will) Because the Iowa GOP primary counts vote on ballots. Then who controls election office controls election result. They give you a number nobody can confirm. That’s how Bush could be selected twice.
—————
This is a covert totalitarian country. They select president by rigged election. (They control the voting office by intelligence) and justify the result by fake poll. (They manipulate public opinion by media)
January 9th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
All send a mail to the local newspapers, they should report it….
January 9th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
From:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20…..al=NHREP21
100% reported
McCain
44%
Romney
15%
Paul
14%
Huckabee
12%
Thompson
4%
Giuliani
3%
Hunter
1%
January 9th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I would like to exchange banner links, how can we go about this I could send you a small banner, similar to the ones on your site now if possible, please let me know, thanks Bobby
January 9th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
We should all raise HELL about this,and spread it to the four corners of the earth… If THEY (NWO) are allowed to get away with this… Then I’am afraid there WILL be a REVOLUTION! (And I don’t mean an “infowar”!!!)
Like Congressman Ron Paul said himself:
“Our forefathers revolted over much less forms of tyranny”…
If we let them get away with this.Then America is DEAD! It’s ALL OVER then…
God help us all…
OwlMan
ps.Please click on my name to visit my YouTube page for relavent videos and information…
January 9th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I think this happens all the time. He won Richmond with like 37%
January 9th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
[...] town called Sutton. The offical results said that Paul had received zero votes in Sutton. However, three members of one Sutton family claim that they had all voted for Paul. Clearly, their votes were not counted. Is this just a [...]
January 9th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
I heard it on another blog very brilliantly stated: If any of the candidates thinks he has the guts to be president, let him call for a recount…….. People are scratching their heads as to why Hillary won - even on the main stream news.
This need to be exposed!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Okay–(Above & beyond the voting inconsistencies we’ve seen thus far) I think I have some great evidence–albeit circumstantial–that something is afoul in the NH primary vote. PLEASE look at the results of the Strafford County Straw Poll (first URL) held on 8-18-07. Compare that to the NH primary results for Strafford County (2nd URL).
Ron Paul garnered 208 total votes (72.2%) at a PICNIC whereas in the “official” PRIMARY results, Dr. Paul took in 96 votes (11%). While there might be myriad legitimate reasons for the gross disparity, I find it strains credulity to accept these results without a further investigation. You think more people are going to show up at a PICNIC than the state PRIMARY??? Please forward this on so we can fully investigate the issue!!
http://www.straffordcountyrepu.....l-results/
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....al=NHREP21
January 9th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I’m so sad, disillusioned in America. I never thought this would happen in America. I’ve searched all over the internet and mainstream media and there is almost no mention of this heinous crime, anywhere! I can’t believe this is happening. Truly, the rEVOLution will not be televised… Will Americans stand up and fight! probably not.
January 10th, 2008 at 12:31 am
[...] Ron Paul campaign is crying fowl as well. With New Hampshire being small enough, one can backtrack and determine whether the votes [...]
January 10th, 2008 at 2:33 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire , three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 10th, 2008 at 5:06 am
I just read on YouTube this morning (Thursday) that another town has discovered voter fraud in NH-Greenville. Ron Paul had zero votes there and he was supposed to have like 29 or 30! What do we do about this??? I am sooooo livid!
January 10th, 2008 at 6:10 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 10th, 2008 at 6:11 am
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 10th, 2008 at 7:25 am
[...] not counted. im not into politricks but i do like what ron is driving at. however…. Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H. | Ron Paul War Room KH __________________ IngeniumRespondi —————————————— Over here is [...]
January 10th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Sutton: 31 votes for Ron Paul?
Now on npr org
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/f.....N=POLITICS
January 10th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Greenville is now on 25?
Giulinani 9% and Clinton 39%?
Ron Paul 8%, less than Giulinani, not possible! NO logic!
Next to come: Giuliani around 15% Clinton around 41%
Next president Clinton!
They know people want a “change” so they are giving it.
This goverment (country) is “evil”!
Iam illegal in this country, and would be happy to leave with Ron Paul as President!
You should always respect “wise man”!
Ron Paul is not only the best for America but the best for the whole worlds ” peace and economy”
Eighter way I am leaving, I don’t want papers from devils, nor do I want to live in a country run by “devils”. You people don’t deserve what is coming to you!
I will keep on fighting and doing what ever I can to help, because I think you people deserve the same freedom as I am going back to. But never forget that it all starts with “education”. The outcome of this election is for 60% the results of “education”! Just like Germany 1930’s!
January 10th, 2008 at 11:29 am
SOMEONE COMPLAINED AND SUTTON IS NOW SHOWING 31 VOTES, DON’T LET THIS SILENCE THE COMMUNITY!!! WE NEED TO SPEAK UP!!
http://www.politico.com/nhprim.....popup.html SUTTON NOW SHOWING 31 VOTES!!!
January 10th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I know! That is what I was telling!
Just wait for the explanation, I bet there is not a lot you can do about it here.
Maby you should all be more focused on HOW TO GET all of this news OUT of the US, because speaking up here hasn’t helped a dam thing untill now!
January 10th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xgWjFe1cE
January 10th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1rfeDKCVDA
January 11th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Please watch HBO documentary on Diabold Voting machine problems
On January 11th, 2008 DRSANGLE says:
Here is a very good video everyone should watch.
It’s a bit long but I have watched it twice.
Colorado is headed for all paper for 2008 election
because of voting machine questions.
Also, I agree with many there has to be qualified observers for the
recount. People that know how fraud can be committed that is why
you should probably watch the video to become as informed as possible.
Ron Paul organization should have been involved from the start. This is what his campaign is about and what if the recount shows Obama the winner?
HBO produced documentary, Hacking Democracy,
http://cre8ive-design.net/blog/?cat=7
I have sent this to Pauls campaign, Kucinich campaign and to the governor of New Hampshire but if you watch and think it should be sent I know all little bit “hurts”. Let Pauls campaign know how you feel about this is what Paul is running for to enforce or I should say re-enforce the law.
Not doing this is like worrying about the windshield wipers on a car with the engine block broken.
Thanks to all that have helped. This is not about Ron Paul because this time this is different. I am so impressed with the younger people really being concerned about their own future enough to do something.
This time this is different and it doesn’t end with Ron Paul.
January 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Just so you know, the Strafford straw poll wasn’t limited to people who actually live in Strafford. It was for anyone that wanted to go. So the difference between the straw poll results and the “official” results are very easy to explain, people voted in their own county in the primary. There were even people there from Long Island :
http://www.ronpaulfan.com/2007.....op-picnic/
Not to dampen the claims of voter fraud, the diebold machines are crap and should never have been used, just trying to get some facts straight.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire, three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]
January 15th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
[...] on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know??? Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H. | Ron Paul War Room Greenville Vote Discrepancy SAME as Sutton Moreover, when Sutton had been found out, they quickly [...]
January 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
[...] on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know??? Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H. | Ron Paul War Room Greenville Vote Discrepancy SAME as Sutton Moreover, when Sutton had been found out, they quickly [...]
January 20th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
The problem is, you have to take what they told you but can’t verify it. They could tell you it’s zero, that forgery is easy to be find out. They could also tell you it’s 31 (or 25) then it is hard for you to confirm it’s a rigging while the real votes may be 131 or 125.
February 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
[...] on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know??? Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H. | Ron Paul War Room Greenville Vote Discrepancy SAME as Sutton Moreover, when Sutton had been found out, they quickly [...]
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[...] According to a voter in Sutton, New Hampshire , three of her family members voted for Ron Paul, yet when she checked the voting map on the Politico website, the total votes for Ron Paul were zero. [...]